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    Ela re Dimou, faidri prosopikotita.

    Eidika de auto peri Arvantwn... mehri to 91 kaneis ma kaneis den kathotan na pei tipota kai ksafnika me to pou plakosan oi Alvanoi ksupnisan oi aristeroumpes tupou Dimou kai arhisan na lene...

    Etsi omws gia na ksekatharisoume ta pragmata mia kai kali:

    1) To onoma Alvania den einai ethnikos prosdiorismos. Oi Alvanoi os ethnos prosdiotizontai Skiptar. To onoma "Alvanoi" tous to edosan oi Byzantinoi. Oi Alvanoi sta valkania proto-anaferontai ton 11o aiona, 6 aiones diladi meta tous Slavous, i parousia tous de protoentopizetai sto Maurovounio kai sti voreia Alvania. I koultoura tous men ehei arketo valkaniko hromma (opws i tourkiki ehei arketo mikrasiatiko hromma), i glossa tous omws den deihnei kanena simadi sugkatoikisis anamesa se arhaious Ellines kai Romaious para deihnei na ehei epireastei mono apo tis neoteres Ellinikes kai Italikes glosses. Opoia shesi me ta arhaia Ellinika den einai megaluteri apo auti ton Rosikwn i twn Souidikwn. Ean itan gigenis laos de tha upirhe auti i "anomalia".

    2) Simeioteon to onoma "Albania" itan to onoma mias horas voreioanatolika tis Armenias, anatolia tis Georgias kai notia tou Dagestan. Apli sunonumia isws, alla piso ston 11o aiwna otan oi Byzantinoi legan "Albanos" anaferontan ston katoiko tou Kaukasou, ohi se katoiko dutikwn Balkaniwn. Auto de simainei oti aparaitita oi Balkanioi Alvanoi proerhontai apo autes tis sugkekrimenes fules ton Kaukasion Alvanon. Omws vgazei mati to oti oi Byzantinoi hrisimopoioun to sugkekrimeno onoma gia na perigrapsosun ena lao o opoios akoma kai simera para tis epimeiksis moiazei para polu me Kaukasio lao (px. sti douleia mou eihame apo ola ta frouta... tous Alvanous tous mperdeues mono me tous Georgianous...den einai oloidioi alla ehoun polla koina...). Auto thumizei to oti oi Byzantinoi apokalousan Skuthes tous Slavous (den itan Skuthes oi Slavoi alla sti fatses de dieferan toso polu kai erhontan apo tin idia kateuthunsi, tin Ukrania).

    3) Oi Alvanoi katevainoun sto epipedo tis simerinis voreias kai kentrikis Alvanias peri ton 12o-13o aiona. Ton 14o aiona pou anaferei o vlakas o Dimou oi Fragkoi tou kratidiou tis Athinas (gallikis all akai katalanikis katagogis) pairnoun kapoious Alvanous gia misthoforous. Posous? E... olos o stratos ton Fragkon itan 6,000 psuhes... oi Alvanoi tha itan kana 2,000.... me to zori ena horio... Autous tous Alvanous o Dimou tous theorei tromero epoikismo!

    4) Ton 15o aiona i megali pleiopsifia twn Alvanwn (95% twn Gegkidon kai 60% ton Toskidwn, sunolika to 80%) ginontai mousoulmanoi. Ekeinoi omws pou emeinan kolimenoi orthodoxoi itan apokleistika oi Alvanoi pou zousan sti Boreia Ipeiro epeidi proerhontai apo megales epimeiksies me Ellines Ipeirotes (akoma kai simera oi Toskides Alvanoi orthodoxoi tis Boreiou Ipeirou einai oi monoi Alvanoi pou ehoun pio "mesogeiaka haraktiristika" se sugkrisi me tous voreious mousoulmanous gegkides - simeioteon, epi Hotza sti Boreia Ipeiro eihan idi katevei pampoloi Gegkides opote min krinete apo auto).

    5) Sta mesa tou 15ou aiona o Ellino-servos (eihe servida mitera) Ipeirotis despotis Georgios Kastriotis epanastatei enantion ton Tourkwn. Suntassei strato me epikentro ti voreia Ipeiro, o opoios apoteleitai apo ena meigma kuriws Alvanwn kai Ellinwn (3/5 "Alvanwn", 2/5 Ellinon - simeioteon oti ta 3/5 ton Alvanon einai oloi orthodoksoi Toskides oi opoioi idi suhna proerhontai apo meiktous gamous, epomenws me eleipi kai suhnotera panteli eleipsi "alvanikis" suneidisis: theorousan tous eautous tous "Romious" kati pou idi apo ekeini tin epohi simaine Ellines - o Dimou san kalos ratsistis pou einai tous to arneitai vevaia auto kai vasi autou arneitai kai gia ta upoloipa 2/5 tou pluthismou auto...).

    6) Meta tin itta tou Kastrioti oi enapomeinantes stratiotes tou "Romeikou" stratou mazi me tis oikogeneies tous pairnoun to dromo tis fugis gia na apofugoun ta antipoina ton Tourkon - oi opoioi to suhnotero einai... Tourkalvanoi afou oi Alvanoi ontas mousoulmanoi einai oi stratiotes tou Soultanou stin periohi. Oloi oloi, antres gunaikes paidia einai peri tous 80-90,000. 10-20,000 egkatistantai sti dutiki Makedonia opou tha aporofithoun argotera apo ton pluthismo. 60-70,000 egkatistantai sti notia Ellada os kleftes kai os ktinotrofoi kai agrotes, apo opou kapoioi pernane kateuthian kai sta nisia opou katapianontai me ti nausiploia. Tora kata poso Alvanos asholithike pote me ti thalassa auto einai mia alli istoria (pou o Dimou de tha sas apantisei vevaia pote...). I phenomenika meikti auti omada anthropwn eihe apoluta koini suneidisi. 1 mono. Romeiki suneidisi diladi Elliniki - giati kaneis mi Ellinas den eniose pote Romios - ektos an kserete kana Boulgaro, Servo i kai Roumano pou na to ekane pote! Enimeroste me, me endiaferei! Akoma kai oi Tourkoi den apokalesan pote Romio kanenan allo ektos apo tous Ellines!!!. Logo omws tis analogias 3/5 - 2/5 kai me dedomeni tin adunamia tis ellinikis glossas os poluplokoteris (i poluplokoteri glossa PANDA hanei edafos enanti aplousterwn glosswn se periptwseis 100% analfavitismou kai eleipsis epivolis apo kapoia kratiki arhi - autos einai kanonas pou mathainoun oi protoeteis tis glossologias), oli i omada uiothetise mia dialekto vasismeni sta alvanika.

    7) kai edo einai to pio endiaferon: efoson milousan Alvanika kai erhontai upotithetai apo ta voreiodutika, tha eprepe na tous apokalesoun euthus eksarheis, Alvanous. Oi ashetoi Fragkoi kai oi Italoi auto kanan alloste. Omws oi (mi Arvanites) Ellines tous apokalousan Arvanites!!!! Eseis ti lete? Apokalousan tous Tourkous, Tourkites? Mipos tous Fragkous, Fragkites? Siga mi legan kai tous magkes magkites... ti na leme tora! To -itis upodilonei polla kai diafora EKTOS tis tautosimeias!!! To "Arvanitis" dimiourgithike se antidiastoli me to Arvanos/Alvanos gia na upodilosei oti men autoi oi anthropoi eihan mia shesi, logo glossas kai geografikis proeleusis, omws kata ta alla DEN itan tautosimoi me tous Alvanous. Fusika 400 hronia meta polloi eukola mperdeuan ta mpoutia tous - opws px. oi Tourkoi pou otan milousan Ellinika apokalousan kamia fora tous Alvanous, "Arvanites" - nomizontas pos einai o sostos oros i i Italoi alla akoma kai oi Ellines pou erhontan apo allou kai de gnorizan tipota peri Arvaniton pou tous apokalousan apla Arvanous. I plaka einai omws oti akoma kai sti N. Italia opou upirhan metanastes kanonikoi Alvanoi, oi Arvanites tonizan to diaforetiko tis katagogis tous kai dilonane MONO Ellines diorthonontas tous Italous.

    8) Enas apo tous logous tis diasosis tis Arvanitikis sta 400 hronia einai o thesmos tou armatolikiou. Oi Ellines pou summetehoun sta armatolikia ousiastika sunergazontai me ta Othomanika tagmata ta opoia einai kata 80% Alvanoi. I 2i episimi glossa tou Othomanikou stratou stin Europi kai i kurioteri se hrisi einai ta Alvanika vevaia. Paratireitai de to fainomeno na milane Arvanitika ohi mono oi ek-katagogis apo Ipeiro apogonoi tou stratou tou Kastrioti alla kai polloi alloi Ellines - opws vevaia milane kai tourkika (aurio methaurio tha mas tous vgaloun kai tourkous, vevaia!!!). I diglossia kai triglossia einai o kanonas kai ohi i eksairesi. Na simeiothei oti oi mi Arvanites opws o Makrugiannides anaferontai stous Arvanites apla kai oraia san allo ena apo tis diafores ellinikes fules pou ipirhan epi Tourkokratias. Kai einai entuposiako dedomenw tis hrisis allis dialektou alla kai tou analfavitismou kai tis eleipsis gnosis istorias apo to Makrugianni! Giati loipon tous theorousan Ellines opos kathe allo? Apla kai oraia giati oi idioi oi Arvanites theorousan ton euato tous Ellines opws kathe allo, aplla kai omorfa giati pragmatika itan Ellines kai stin katagogi (kata megalo meros toulahiston).

    Deite to apla: KANEIS MA KANEIS me mi Elliniki katagogi de tha itan TOSO ma TOSO MALAKS na dilosei Ellinas epi Tourkokratias otan o Tourkos/Tourkalvanos akouge ti leksi "Romios/Grekos/Ellinas" kai evgaze mahairi me ti mia. Epi Hellinistikwn hronwn nai. Epi Byzantiou isws, kyriws, meta ton 8o aiona. Omws epi Tourkokratias?????? Eleos! Poso afelis kai poso ashetos prepei na einai kapoios gia na pistepsei kati tetoio? I na po kalutera... poso propaganda prepei na ehei faei kapoios sti mapa i na thelei na perasei sti diki mas mapa gia na leei kati tetoio?

    9) I Arvanitiki dialektos den einai auti pou parousiazetai se kapoia vivlia ta opoia vasizontai se ena leksiko enos Arvaniti pou ftiahtike to 1880 gia politikes skopimotites tote pou i Ellada ithele na proselkusei tous orthodoxous hristianous Alvanous na enothoun me tin Ellada kai hrisimopoiise os propaganda tous Ellines Arvanitofonous - kata ti diarkeia tis propagandas autis egine, dustuhws, prospatheia eksAlvanismou tis Arvanitikis dialektou me parousiasi grammatikwn kanonwn pou pote de hrisimopoiithikan apo tous Arvanites kathws kai me parousiasi enos leksikou 15,000 lekseon to 90% ton opoion den eihan akousei pote tous oi Arvanites, dedomenw oti i dialektros tous eihe den eihe 3,000 lekseis (afou itan dialektos aploikwn analfaviton anthropwn), apla o suggrafeas eihe prosthesei olo to alvaniko lexiko, vasismenoss kuriws stin toskiki alla suhna akoma kai sti gegkiki (!!!).

    . Ta Arvanitika einai mia aploiki dialektos i opoia men ehei basi ta alvanika alla ohi mono einai gemati me ellinikes lekseis alla ehei kai ksekatharo elliniko suntaktiko kai tropo dimiourgias ton frasewn - to opoio diaferei apo to alvaniko. Auti i vasiki leptomeria den upodilonei oti "Alvanoi epireastikan ta triguro ellinika" alla oti "Ellines mathan na milane me vasi tin alvaniki glossa kati pou kanane me ton tropo tous vevaia. Arkei na paratirisei kaneis oti dialekto pou na proseggizei ta Arvanitika den uparhei kai den upirkse pote stin Alvania (kai fandasteite to Souli stin Ipeiro den itan polu makrua apo tin kendriki Alvania...). Kai vevaia ta arvanitika auta dieferan apo ta tourkalvanika pou milousan oi mousoulmanoi Alvanoi.

    10) Einai alitheia oti otan oi Ellines epanastatisan os Romioi, paroti to Romios simaine kat'apokleistikotita Ellinas (kai auto to kseran kai oi Ellines kai oi Tourkoi alla - to simantikotero kai oi upoloipo hristianoi), kanan mia prospatheia tin ennoia "Romios" na ti hrisimopoiisoun propagandistika os os "hristianos pou pisteuei stin anasustasti tis Orthodoxis autokratorias", me elpida na parasuroun stis takseis tous kai tous upoloipous orthodoksous. PARA tin agrammatosuni tous kai tin ashetila tous, KANEIS allos orthodoksos den epese mesa stin "poniro" Elliniko shedio. Ean oi Arvanites den itan Ellines tha itan i foteini eksairesi!!!!!!!! Entuposi omws kanei oti eno oloi oi Arvanites einai sto podi KANEIS orthodoxos Alvanos, oute kan sti Boreia Ipeiro apo tin opoia katevainoun straties Ellinon epanastatwn den epanastatei!!!!!!!!!!! E ti diaolo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lete na kseran kati pou o kaimenos o Dimou na min kserei? Lete e?

    Tespandon... ti na leme tora... o noon noeitw.

    Pandos ean katalava kala, sumfona me to Dimou, prepei na eimaste fuletika ratsistes kai ohi mono na arnithoume tin Ellinikotita ton Arvanitwn vasi tou 3/5 Alvanikis proeleusis stoiheiou sto orthodoxo alvanophono 3/5 tou stratou tou Kastrioti alla kai vasi autou tou "apaisiou alvanikou sunothuleumatos" na arnithoume tin Ellinikotita kai olwn twn Ellinwn pou katadehtikan na anameihtoun me autous tous ruparous...

    .... na haro ego anektikotita kai polupolitismikotita... o anthropos autos mas kanei logo gia anohi stous ksenous kai gia "pliri ensomatosi tous stin Elliniki koinonia" eno arneitai stous fanatikous Ellinares Arvanites akoma kai 400 hronia meta kai para to diko tous autoprosdiorismo apo tin proti tous emfanisi stin istoria, tin Elliniki suneidisi....kai ohi mono auto alla kai vasi autwn arneitai kai tin Elliniki uparksi genikws!!!!

    Entaksi ti na leme... i paranoia sto megaleio tis...

    Ta parapanw den ta grafw gia tous tupous pou stirizoun o,ti leei o Dimou. Gia ton aplo logo oti den ehei noima na kano dialogo mazi tous (afou den kanoun pote dialogo). Ta grafo gia osous patriotes theloun na mathoun perissotera gia to poioi itan oi Arvanites. Magkes, milame gia ena apo ta kalutera Ellinika fula tis neoteris istorias mas... Sevasmos.
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    Pion pianei o panikos? Giati den eida oute ton Dimou oute esena na anaferete kanena epiheirima. Parapano parathesa plithos epiheirimaton kati pou eisai entelws anikanos na prakseis kathoti profanws imimathis propagandismenos. Oi ratsistikotates anafores sou peri podarilas kai skatilas enanti tou katharoterou laou se thema prosopikis igiinis ston planiti ohi apla faneronoun ta komplex sou alla einai plirws analoges tis prosopikotitas sou kai polu pithanws kai tou idiou tou prosopikou sou upovathrou gia auto krata tes entos tis oikogeneias sou kai min pianeis sto stoma sou tous allous.

    Oso gia tous neous pou les, parolo pou den theleis na to apodehteis einai 10 dores pio enimeromenoi se tetoia themata. 30 hronia prin enas nearos Dimou pernouse gia sovaros. Simera, pou einai kai ebeiroteros kai tha prepe na kserei kai 2 grammata parapano ton ehoun oloi oi neoi (plein kati fanatismenoi surizaiokoukouedes) gia geloia fusiognomia.

    Tha sou lega ksupna kai des tin pragmatikotita alla posws endiaferei i periptosi sou. Tin epomeni fora omos pou theleis na antitakseis mia gnomi, grapse esto kai ena epiheirima. Etsi gia allagi, na les kai esu oti taha kaneis diaologo.

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    <<1) To onoma Alvania den einai ethnikos prosdiorismos. Oi Alvanoi os ethnos prosdiotizontai Skiptar. To onoma "Alvanoi" tous to edosan oi Byzantinoi. Oi Alvanoi sta valkania proto-anaferontai ton 11o aiona, 6 aiones diladi meta tous Slavous, i parousia tous de protoentopizetai sto Maurovounio kai sti voreia Alvania. I koultoura tous men ehei arketo valkaniko hromma (opws i tourkiki ehei arketo mikrasiatiko hromma), i glossa tous omws den deihnei kanena simadi sugkatoikisis anamesa se arhaious Ellines kai Romaious para deihnei na ehei epireastei mono apo tis neoteres Ellinikes kai Italikes glosses. Opoia shesi me ta arhaia Ellinika den einai megaluteri apo auti ton Rosikwn i twn Souidikwn. Ean itan gigenis laos de tha upirhe auti i "anomalia".>>

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    <<2) Simeioteon to onoma "Albania" itan to onoma mias horas voreioanatolika tis Armenias, anatolia tis Georgias kai notia tou Dagestan. Apli sunonumia isws, alla piso ston 11o aiwna otan oi Byzantinoi legan "Albanos" anaferontan ston katoiko tou Kaukasou, ohi se katoiko dutikwn Balkaniwn. Auto de simainei oti aparaitita oi Balkanioi Alvanoi proerhontai apo autes tis sugkekrimenes fules ton Kaukasion Alvanon. Omws vgazei mati to oti oi Byzantinoi hrisimopoioun to sugkekrimeno onoma gia na perigrapsosun ena lao o opoios akoma kai simera para tis epimeiksis moiazei para polu me Kaukasio lao (px. sti douleia mou eihame apo ola ta frouta... tous Alvanous tous mperdeues mono me tous Georgianous...den einai oloidioi alla ehoun polla koina...). Auto thumizei to oti oi Byzantinoi apokalousan Skuthes tous Slavous (den itan Skuthes oi Slavoi alla sti fatses de dieferan toso polu kai erhontan apo tin idia kateuthunsi, tin Ukrania).>>

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    <<3) Oi Alvanoi katevainoun sto epipedo tis simerinis voreias kai kentrikis Alvanias peri ton 12o-13o aiona. Ton 14o aiona pou anaferei o vlakas o Dimou oi Fragkoi tou kratidiou tis Athinas (gallikis all akai katalanikis katagogis) pairnoun kapoious Alvanous gia misthoforous. Posous? E... olos o stratos ton Fragkon itan 6,000 psuhes... oi Alvanoi tha itan kana 2,000.... me to zori ena horio... Autous tous Alvanous o Dimou tous theorei tromero epoikismo!>>

    12-13 . 14 . . 1450 60% 80% 90% 40% . .

    <<5) Sta mesa tou 15ou aiona o Ellino-servos (eihe servida mitera) Ipeirotis despotis Georgios Kastriotis epanastatei enantion ton Tourkwn. Suntassei strato me epikentro ti voreia Ipeiro, o opoios apoteleitai apo ena meigma kuriws Alvanwn kai Ellinwn (3/5 "Alvanwn", 2/5 Ellinon - simeioteon oti ta 3/5 ton Alvanon einai oloi orthodoksoi Toskides oi opoioi idi suhna proerhontai apo meiktous gamous, epomenws me eleipi kai suhnotera panteli eleipsi "alvanikis" suneidisis: theorousan tous eautous tous "Romious" kati pou idi apo ekeini tin epohi simaine Ellines - o Dimou san kalos ratsistis pou einai tous to arneitai vevaia auto kai vasi autou arneitai kai gia ta upoloipa 2/5 tou pluthismou auto...).>>

    19 15 . . Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg . .

    <<6) Meta tin itta tou Kastrioti oi enapomeinantes stratiotes tou "Romeikou" stratou mazi me tis oikogeneies tous pairnoun to dromo tis fugis gia na apofugoun ta antipoina ton Tourkon - oi opoioi to suhnotero einai... Tourkalvanoi afou oi Alvanoi ontas mousoulmanoi einai oi stratiotes tou Soultanou stin periohi. Oloi oloi, antres gunaikes paidia einai peri tous 80-90,000. 10-20,000 egkatistantai sti dutiki Makedonia opou tha aporofithoun argotera apo ton pluthismo. 60-70,000 egkatistantai sti notia Ellada os kleftes kai os ktinotrofoi kai agrotes, apo opou kapoioi pernane kateuthian kai sta nisia opou katapianontai me ti nausiploia. Tora kata poso Alvanos asholithike pote me ti thalassa auto einai mia alli istoria (pou o Dimou de tha sas apantisei vevaia pote...). I phenomenika meikti auti omada anthropwn eihe apoluta koini suneidisi. 1 mono. Romeiki suneidisi diladi Elliniki - giati kaneis mi Ellinas den eniose pote Romios - ektos an kserete kana Boulgaro, Servo i kai Roumano pou na to ekane pote! Enimeroste me, me endiaferei! Akoma kai oi Tourkoi den apokalesan pote Romio kanenan allo ektos apo tous Ellines!!!. Logo omws tis analogias 3/5 - 2/5 kai me dedomeni tin adunamia tis ellinikis glossas os poluplokoteris (i poluplokoteri glossa PANDA hanei edafos enanti aplousterwn glosswn se periptwseis 100% analfavitismou kai eleipsis epivolis apo kapoia kratiki arhi - autos einai kanonas pou mathainoun oi protoeteis tis glossologias), oli i omada uiothetise mia dialekto vasismeni sta alvanika.>>

    Kastrioti 1468 1506. , , .

    <<8) Enas apo tous logous tis diasosis tis Arvanitikis sta 400 hronia einai o thesmos tou armatolikiou. Oi Ellines pou summetehoun sta armatolikia ousiastika sunergazontai me ta Othomanika tagmata ta opoia einai kata 80% Alvanoi. I 2i episimi glossa tou Othomanikou stratou stin Europi kai i kurioteri se hrisi einai ta Alvanika vevaia. Paratireitai de to fainomeno na milane Arvanitika ohi mono oi ek-katagogis apo Ipeiro apogonoi tou stratou tou Kastrioti alla kai polloi alloi Ellines - opws vevaia milane kai tourkika (aurio methaurio tha mas tous vgaloun kai tourkous, vevaia!!!). I diglossia kai triglossia einai o kanonas kai ohi i eksairesi. Na simeiothei oti oi mi Arvanites opws o Makrugiannides anaferontai stous Arvanites apla kai oraia san allo ena apo tis diafores ellinikes fules pou ipirhan epi Tourkokratias. Kai einai entuposiako dedomenw tis hrisis allis dialektou alla kai tou analfavitismou kai tis eleipsis gnosis istorias apo to Makrugianni! Giati loipon tous theorousan Ellines opos kathe allo? Apla kai oraia giati oi idioi oi Arvanites theorousan ton euato tous Ellines opws kathe allo, aplla kai omorfa giati pragmatika itan Ellines kai stin katagogi (kata megalo meros toulahiston).>>

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    <<9) I Arvanitiki dialektos den einai auti pou parousiazetai se kapoia vivlia ta opoia vasizontai se ena leksiko enos Arvaniti pou ftiahtike to 1880 gia politikes skopimotites tote pou i Ellada ithele na proselkusei tous orthodoxous hristianous Alvanous na enothoun me tin Ellada kai hrisimopoiise os propaganda tous Ellines Arvanitofonous - kata ti diarkeia tis propagandas autis egine, dustuhws, prospatheia eksAlvanismou tis Arvanitikis dialektou me parousiasi grammatikwn kanonwn pou pote de hrisimopoiithikan apo tous Arvanites kathws kai me parousiasi enos leksikou 15,000 lekseon to 90% ton opoion den eihan akousei pote tous oi Arvanites, dedomenw oti i dialektros tous eihe den eihe 3,000 lekseis (afou itan dialektos aploikwn analfaviton anthropwn), apla o suggrafeas eihe prosthesei olo to alvaniko lexiko, vasismenoss kuriws stin toskiki alla suhna akoma kai sti gegkiki (!!!).>>

    . . . . . .. . - . 3000.

    <<. Ta Arvanitika einai mia aploiki dialektos i opoia men ehei basi ta alvanika alla ohi mono einai gemati me ellinikes lekseis alla ehei kai ksekatharo elliniko suntaktiko kai tropo dimiourgias ton frasewn - to opoio diaferei apo to alvaniko. Auti i vasiki leptomeria den upodilonei oti "Alvanoi epireastikan ta triguro ellinika" alla oti "Ellines mathan na milane me vasi tin alvaniki glossa kati pou kanane me ton tropo tous vevaia. Arkei na paratirisei kaneis oti dialekto pou na proseggizei ta Arvanitika den uparhei kai den upirkse pote stin Alvania (kai fandasteite to Souli stin Ipeiro den itan polu makrua apo tin kendriki Alvania...). Kai vevaia ta arvanitika auta dieferan apo ta tourkalvanika pou milousan oi mousoulmanoi Alvanoi.>>

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    sapiokaravo : 29-12-09 14:14

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